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cs107-18-10 03:00 AM

Has CL gone crazy

I've been checking out my local CL and prices are higher than ebay. Now, I understand it's cycling season but Cleveland, OH isn't a hot market. The flippers are asking ridiculous prices for really pedestrian bikes.

I'm finished thanks for listening.


Aquakitty07-18-10 03:04 AM

Well I live in a town noone has heard of but same thing here... how can they get it when bikes brand new are so cheap? You can buy nice aluminum bikes at big box stores for next to nothing so why would you by a bottom of the line "vintage" bike for an inflated price.

Eh on the other hand its a sign that bikes are becoming more popular, gotta look at the good :)


kaliayev07-18-10 03:28 AM

I've been noticing the same thing for a couple of months in my area.


cs107-18-10 03:51 AM

Originally Posted by kaliayev(Post 11131596)

I've been noticing the same thing for a couple of months in my area.

Are you in the Dayton area? Considering how high unemployment is in Cleveland, I thought prices would be less. I guess it's not the case.


Esteban3269607-18-10 05:08 AM

There is a hign demand [ which means high prices ] for bikes in my area. See Craigslist link below.

http://gainesville.craigslist.org/bik/


KonAaron Snake07-18-10 05:38 AM

The prices in Gainesville looked normal to me...some people were a little high, some were a little low. There were some good deals being offered in fact (like $650 for a custom Reynolds 753 frame with campy athena-record).


RobbieTunes07-18-10 05:42 AM

Screamin' deals here, but not on C&V...and, of course, some overpriced baloney.
Compared to entry-level new bikes, though:

Motobecane w/brifters for $120
Cannondale Six13 for $300
Discovery Channel full carbon, custom wheels, $1100
US Postal Service full carbone, $1100
Trek $1500 Sora for $200

None are lasting long, however, as you would imagine.

Still, the flakes are out there, too:
Bontrager Race Light rear $50.
I emailed, offered PayPal $55. He accepted, I paid.
10 minutes later, he refunded, asked me to call.
I called, he was freaked I hadn't bothered to come and see it.
He demanded $70, said he had other buyers (now a common CL tactic)
I paid the $70 by PayPal. The next day, he refunded.
I emailed "no deal." He called, emailed, wanted to start again.
I bought a Mavic.


nikkorod07-18-10 06:24 AM

Prices seem to fluctuate. There are still some good deals out there, but you have to look often and be quick. Then there are the people that think a Schwinn Letour II that is rusty and beat is worth $600.00 because it is "vintage". I thought this was a decimal error when I first saw it......Nope. He is for real

Schwinn Le Tour II - $600 (hamburg)

Date: 2010-07-11, 7:15PM EDT
Reply to: sale-xvagh-1837718120@craigslist.org [Errors when replying to ads?]

i have a Schwinn Le Tour II made in japan. Not sure what year it is but has all original stuff, chain, tires, cables,rimes, everything. Not in best condition but not in worst condition but is in good rideable condition. Has some rusty spots but not many and the seat is tearing a little bit tooWhating 600.00 but mght take best offer, no trades. You can contact me at skaterchaos@yahoo.com or call at 704-219-6549. If i do not pick up im sorry but leave you name and number and i will get back to you. thank you

  • Location: hamburg
  • it's NOT ok to contact this poster with services or other commercial interests

http://images.craigslist.org/3m83o03...1e5b5c1c07.jpghttp://images.craigslist.org/3k03ob3...3f1b311383.jpghttp://images.craigslist.org/3n53k23...5c976111f9.jpghttp://images.craigslist.org/3k23m33...0be3f01e8d.jpg
PostingID: 1837718120


sykerocker07-18-10 06:35 AM

Selling old bicycles is no different than selling old anything . . . . . . . there's always going to be sellers who see whatever they've got as a legitimate get rich quick scheme, or have some inflated value to their item. I've run across the same thing in the motorcycle section on Craigslist all the time. Automobiles are about the only thing that seems to be exempt from this price inflation, probably due to there being more web sites and other information sources on car values than anything else.

Now, if somebody would come up with a long run, legitimate bicycle equivalent of edmunds.com, and got people to believe in it, then we'd probably see the asking prices get more realistic. I'm not holding my breath.


roccobike07-18-10 06:43 AM

Robbie already reported on the CL situation here. There are several newer bike prices that are "buy it now" good deals along with some higher prices. Vintage has been either reasonable to ridiculous high, but no bargains. I'm used to seeing a few absurd vintage prices but the sudden surge of reasonable to down right bargain prices on newer bikes is a sudden almost alarming shift. Only a month ago I was commenting on how newer bikes were selling for near new prices. Now the standard, at least $300 for a brifter bike is out the window as several have popped up in the $200 range. Trek is the most common brand showing up at that price point, so these are mainstream, quality bikes.
BTW, I would call the Raleigh area a very HOT bike market, especially newer bikes. Between the warm weather 8 months of the year to three major universities in the area, and several county sponsered single track MTB trails, almost any reasonably priced adult bike will sell.


Maddox07-18-10 09:54 AM

Does it have anything to do with Lebron leaving?


Chris_in_Miami07-18-10 10:19 AM

Originally Posted by KonAaron Snake(Post 11131710)

The prices in Gainesville looked normal to me...some people were a little high, some were a little low. There were some good deals being offered in fact (like $650 for a custom Reynolds 753 frame with campy athena-record).

+1

Gainesville looks pretty good compared to south Florida, CL is mostly department store bikes down here. Another nice G-ville deal: http://gainesville.craigslist.org/bik/1844081739.html


kaliayev07-18-10 11:28 AM

Originally Posted by cs1(Post 11131606)

Are you in the Dayton area? Considering how high unemployment is in Cleveland, I thought prices would be less. I guess it's not the case.

Yeah I am kinda in between Dayton, Columbus, and Cincinnati. Everybody and their brother is trying to sell an old beat up lower end Schwinn for $150-$125. Also for some reason lots are also thinking a Huffy is worth something.


scozim07-18-10 11:54 AM

They're all over the place around here and I've got about 8 different CL's that I check. I had to laugh at a guy who's trying to be a flipper in our small town - doesn't do a bit of work on the bike and asked for stupid prices on the ones he has. How do I know - two weeks ago I saw a crappy Schwinn Mirada "mountain bike" at Goodwill for $5. Pretty bad shape with rusty chain, etc. ugly pink paint. The guy has it listed for $175 - I about fell out of my chair laughing.


sonatageek07-18-10 03:06 PM

Of course the high priced bikes that the flippers have on the Cleveland CL have been for sale since, I don't know April or May. I have gotten pretty good prices for the bikes I have sold thus far, but no where near what many of the flippers who have dozen's of bikes listed.

I generally have one bike to sell at a time, and the longest it has taken to sell something has been about week. A few have gone out in a day or two.


unterhausen07-18-10 03:26 PM

here's how insane the vintage flipper market has gotten: my mother asked me about the value of a vintage bike. It didn't cost much, but it was a piece of junk, whereas her Peugeot mixte that got swept away in the recent Nashville flooding was fairly nice. Anyone sees a rusty Peugeot Mixte downstream from Antioch TN now knows where it came from.


cs107-18-10 04:16 PM

Originally Posted by Maddox(Post 11132380)

Does it have anything to do with Lebron leaving?

LOL, they were tearing his billboard down the next day. He was an avid cyclist. Did a lot of charity work for kids in Akron. Everyone wanted to ride with King James.


wrk10107-18-10 04:22 PM

Has Craig's List gone crazy? Not around here. I've actually been seeing some really good deals lately, much better than a year or even two years ago. Picked up three off the local and nearby Craigs List in the last week. There have been several other good deals that I passed on, as I just have too many bikes right now. You still have to scoop them quickly.

it seems like more people are actively selling items that have been sitting around unused for a while. Since many people don't know how to value a bike, many are overpriced, others are pretty good deals. Each bike I picked up had been sitting idle for several years.


repechage07-18-10 05:03 PM

In the greater Los Angeles area, CL might as well be 'Toon Town.

My guess is prospective sellers see prevailing asking prices and use those as the floor.

The mayor of LA just broke his elbow on a bikepath in Venice Blvd, got clipped by a cab, maybe we will get better bike paths. I just want to know how he found a cab in this town.


auchencrow07-18-10 06:46 PM

This season I’ve seen relatively few bargains. The ones I’ve found have been GREAT, but most people now seem to know that road bikes are not worthless, and while a few ask exorbitant prices, the majority are just high enough so that they make an unattractive prospect for a flip. :(

Of course, ALL of them have been sitting forever and require and complete overhaul, and cleaning to various extents. As a flipper, I am now competing directly with these sellers. - The difference is that I am selling a clean, completely refurbished road bike, and considering the cost of of tires, tubes, SS cables, bar tape (and the occasional saddle, seat post, DR, and pedals), I am at LEAST $50 into every bike I buy above and beyond the purchase price.

This means that I have to find the (increasingly scarce) deals at the low end of the bell curve just to break even.

Buying big brand name bikes ameliorates this situation, since I can ask (and get) a premium for a steel Trek or Miyata, since people are seeking these and they are hard to find at any price. Not so, for a Shogun, Nishiki or a Maruishi - even if they are equivalent in quality.


Poguemahone07-19-10 08:14 AM

CL has always been a bit crazy, and now the professional flippers have figured there's value in old bikes, so they've moved in on the market. They always want to squeeze every last penny out of anything they have, it's how they operate.

That said, on the local CL there's a price point at which stuff often just sits. It tends to be right around 200$, maybe a bit higher. Thus, a 75$ free spirit might move quickly, while a nicer bike that is a relative bargain will sometimes just sit. For example, this sat for four days:

http://i872.photobucket.com/albums/a...yclones001.jpg

Before I spent 200$ on it as a bike for my GF. I would have picked it up quicker, but I was out of town and surprised to see it show up.

The fact is a lot of people are looking for cheap; and a lot of sellers overprice their stuff, hope someone bites, and then slowly decrease the price if someone doesn't.

I have noticed the total crap on the local CL now outstrips the good stuff by at least 10 to 1.


gomango07-19-10 08:29 AM

If priced too low, a legion of flippers attack the the listing.

If priced too high, the listing sits forever and clutters the daylights out of CL.

There are some incredible values that still show up on a weekly basis.

You have to watch the listings like a hawk and never blink or tarry when you want one of the items.

I've learned the sweet spot for this odd little game, and we do ok.


vettefrc200007-19-10 10:51 PM

gioscinelli07-19-10 11:32 PM

In Chicago's CL, there are ton's of used bike shops, out of state junk lots, out of cellar sellers flipping bikes that clutter up CL. But, the good news is finding the jewel in the in the garbage, like my latest find! 97 Litespeed Tachyon! Takes patients and relentless perseverance to plow through the crap, but their out there! Gioscinelli:thumb:

http://bikeforums.net/attachment.php...hmentid=160542


MajorA07-20-10 11:48 AM

In my area (Eugene, Oregon) the prices are up, but not crazy. It's pretty easy to explain. In lean times, consumers who would buy new without thinking about it are more willing to research what they want, consider quality used over new, and invest a little elbow grease in a used purchase. Simple result, per supply and demand, is that an expanded market of buyers will exert upward pressure on price. Of course, when this happens, you have the small group of opportunistic chuckleheads who expect that a beater Raleigh Supercourse will fetch $400, but that happens in any rising market.

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